Lame Graffiti Train Model Simulates Creativity for Non-Creatives

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The "Graffiti Your Own Train" from Suck.uk is a clean white train car designed to be covered with included graffiti decals. Which makes it lame, of course—cutting and pasting someone else's wyldstylez onto a toy train isn't a "blank canvas for your creativity." Of course what would be truly creative would be to paint actual tiny graffiti on the side of a toy train, but you could just run to the hobby shop and buy any ol' box car for that.

Come to think of it, that could be a nice cottage industry for someone: selling authentically tagged train cars to model railroaders.

Product Page [Suck.uk via Red Ferret]


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"...selling authentically tagged train cars to model railroaders."

I think half the fun of being a Model Railroader is creating this kind of detail on their own?

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#2 posted by Anonymous , September 27, 2007 7:11 AM

What more would one expect from a website called "Suck"?

-b.glad

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Sure, painting your own would be fun...if you have the ability. But I know some railroaders who are more about the overall construction and would welcome some outside help. I mean, they're not all building their cars from scratch.

Okay, I don't actually know any railroaders. But the imaginary ones I've spoken to seem excited by this idea.

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I'd do it myself, but it's so damn hard holding those teeny tiny spray paint cans.

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#5 posted by Anonymous , September 27, 2007 9:35 AM

actually there's a graph store in NY just off Canal somewhere that sells tiny trains they've painted. They're pretty neat but the store has really random hours.

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I've seen articles in model railroad magazines about accurately reproducing graffiti for an "authentic" look. I think one article went so far as taking photos of real actual throw-ups and having them printed onto decal transfer sheet for application to models. I don't think it's so much as "simulating creativity for non-creatives" as a shortcut to getting the look you want. If you are into modeling enough to apply fake graffiti on your trains, you have more pressing concerns than coming up with your own writing style.

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check out this design site. pix from an insanely detailed and deliciously grimy nyc/bronx model train set. no graffiti on the trains unfortunately, but plenty on the buildings. amazing stuff really.

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Which makes it lame, of course—cutting and pasting someone else's wyldstylez onto a toy train isn't a "blank canvas for your creativity."

Yeah, and not scratch building the boxcar, the tracks, the transformers and control system. You really need to start with just a tree and a pile of ore--otherwise you are just taking advantage of other people's creativity.

I gotta say that if you are going to criticize model railroad builder's for being un-origninal for using pre-made graffiti you are sort of missing the whole "building and playing with exact replicas" aspect of model railroading. The creativity doesn't always come from doing everything the hard way nor does everyone have the skill in freehand drawing needed to create original 2D art works.

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Whatever, Skep. Why don't you take a look at the product and realize it's not a model railroad car with paste-on graffiti. That was my idea. But don't let understanding stop you from douching up the place.

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Why don't you take a look at the product and realize it's not a model railroad car with paste-on graffiti. That was my idea. But don't let understanding stop you from douching up the place.

You know what I suspect really "douch[es] up the place?" Telling your readers they are "douching up the place!"

While you are right, I didn't RTFA, my bad, your comments could still apply to your position: "Which makes it lame, of course—cutting and pasting someone else's wyldstylez onto a toy train isn't a "blank canvas for your creativity." Of course what would be truly creative would be to paint actual tiny graffiti on the side of a toy train, but you could just run to the hobby shop and buy any ol' box car for that."

However, mistakes aside, I try to keep my comments about the content of posts rather than implicitly calling people douchebags. I think offering the same consideration to your readers might have some merit.

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You win, Skep. From now on I will call all douchebags "space twats."

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You win, Skep. From now on I will call all douchebags "space twats."
I think my point had more to do with the difference between arguing with the positions in people's post and just calling them names. While you only implicitly called me a douche, it is pretty much the only conclusion one can come to when you claim I was "douching up the place."

Did it even occur to you that I might respond to a reasoned, insult-free critique? I'd like to think my posts represent a strong but fairly rational point of view. If you had just made your point without the pejorative implications I would have actually acknowledged my error--which I did anyways. I'm also known to sometimes actually apologize when I've made errors of judgment in posts. I'm wondering if you are capable of doing the same?

For the moment I'll just assume that your personal insults are the result of an aberration in judgement rather than indicative of your general demeanor because I'd like to think that this petulance does not represent you at your best.

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Jeez Joel, WTF is wrong with you? I come to the comments section to see what other interesting ideas people may have about adding a touch of reality to models and I find you having a spat with a reader. Grow up.

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Krisjohn, Skep has a history of trolling posts with ridiculous, abrasive statements looking to start a fight. I apologize for falling for it and douching up my own thread.

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Krisjohn, Skep has a history of trolling posts with ridiculous, abrasive statements looking to start a fight,

Opinionated, certainly, but rational. Argumentative? Sometimes, but based in reality and reason, I'd like to think, though we can all make errors. I assume that you don't intend the discussion thread to be a gathering of credulous agreement and hosannas, but relevant and intelligent commentary and discussion. I hope that I generally meet that bar.

I firmly reject the characterization as a troll, though. Nor do I think my sincere post in this thread that set you off could count as trolling. Note that unlike an actual troll I admitted my error in my post. There is a difference between someone who you disagree with or rubs you the wrong way and a troll.

If there is any post that you feel I've made a factual error or irrational statement in, please tell me so that I can review your allegations and see if I've made an error.

While I know how convenient it may be to label me a troll, I don't think the history of my posts supports such a conclusion, though I'm happy to respond to factual allegations as opposed to mere name calling--name calling being something I would think trolls do.

I note that you carefully omit any apology to me for calling me a douche, but I'm not so petty as to expect one. All I expect is for the proprietor of BBGadgets site to be above petty squabbles and to encourage smart and relevant dialogue inspired by the sites posts.

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Yeah, there was this NY art show of custom painted art train representation wallhangers:
http://www.yumfactory.com/train.html

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Fair enough, Skep. I don't feel like you've been very polite in the past, but my comment wasn't polite either, so let's call it a wash and try to go from here. I have very little patience for people trying to take pot shots for the sake of it, especially on my home turf, but I shouldn't be so reactive.

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Cool.

I admit I can come off as abrasive sometimes, but I do actually try to be informed, relevant, rational, measured and even conciliatory in my posts. And I always try to respond to the content of posts and avoid name calling.

You'll note that I don't post in every thread--far from it--I only post in the ones where I feel I can add something of value--even if that something is sometimes fair criticism. In the case of this post I apologize for not reading your post more closely.

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Are you supposed to paint the train first? I mean, real trains aren't "bone white" before they get graffitied.

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Toasters with Integrierter Edelstahl-Brötchenaufsatz and now references to model railroad slums. With pictures. I truly love the details!

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#21 posted by Anonymous , October 1, 2007 1:44 AM

They do however have some fairly awesome gadgetry such as these

http://www.suck.uk.com/product.php?rangeID=15

http://www.suck.uk.com/product.php?rangeID=35

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#22 posted by Anonymous , October 2, 2007 5:05 PM

Not sure the intended bitter irony of the design is making itself clear to everyone. Much like the Duct Tape Wallet, some people will never create if it isn't handed to them mostly finished already. This isn't really for those people, but for the uber-savvy urbanites who like to make fun of those people. Meant to be snickered at, as is the reason for the entire Suck UK brand. Great stocking stuffers.

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You can paint one of these

www.allcitystyle.com
we have been doing the blank train thing since 2004
with international shows and collaborations with some of the best writers in the world

check it out it is nearly 2' long high quality ABS plastic

Klim

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#24 posted by Anonymous , June 20, 2008 1:34 AM

This train was obviously ment to be painted on by someone else. They advertised it as blank white canvas for you creativity. I guess some people can only think about pasting the included stickers onto it.

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