More hot, nubile teens on their way to jail for making child porn...of themselves
GREENSBURG, Pa. -- Three teenage girls who allegedly sent nude or semi-nude cell phone pictures of themselves, and three male classmates in a Greensburg Salem High School who received them, are charged with child pornography.Sometimes I wish we lived in the olden days when people did not develop sexually until they were in their mid-30s.Police said the girls are being charged with manufacturing, disseminating or possessing child pornography while the boys face charges of possession.
"It's very dangerous," said Seranko. "Once it's on a cell phone, that cell phone can be put on the Internet where everyone in the world can get access to that juvenile picture. You don't realize what you are doing until it's already done."
High Schoolers Accused Of Sending Naked Pictures To Each Other [WPXI.com] (Thanks, Matt!)
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absolutely insane.
what's worse are the comments on wpxi.com, people arguing that what these girls did is morally wrong and therefore demands government control/intervention.
I think that if you have kids and you feel you need a government or a external body to teach them right from wrong and punish them when they are "immoral" you are signaling your failure as a parent. You are giving up your authority and liberty in favor of the ease of external control. And that, is the only thing that I find morally wrong about this whole situation.
absolutely insane.
what's worse are the comments on wpxi.com, people arguing that what these girls did is morally wrong and therefore demands government control/intervention.
I think that if you have kids and you feel you need a government or a external body to teach them right from wrong and punish them when they are "immoral" you are signaling your failure as a parent. You are giving up your authority and liberty in favor of the ease of external control. And that, is the only thing that I find morally wrong about this whole situation.
Pictures aren't inherently dangerous... but allowing madmen to see them is certainly dangerous.
And how is receiving them illegal -- did they explicitly choose to receive them? I don't think that's possible on a cell phone. Hey! Get anyone arrested by sending naked pictures of yourself to them!
As an aside: Why is this in BBG? This is a story for regular BB.
@4: It has hot nubile teenage girls in it. Do we need to submit ourselves to petty distinctions?
I think the smartest thing the teens' lawyers could do to highlight how silly the case is is to have the girls send their pictures to the trial judge's and prosecutors' mobile phones or email accounts and then quickly report them to the police for possession as well. It's not like they could make things much worse for the girls...
Ahem, do you have any samples of these pictures? Just for curiousity's sake, of course.
"And how is receiving them illegal -- did they explicitly choose to receive them? I don't think that's possible on a cell phone. Hey! Get anyone arrested by sending naked pictures of yourself to them!"
I wonder how long before this technique is used in a high profile case to remove a political figure from office?
Put out a call to teen boys everywhere to send pics of themselves to the pope?
@samsam: It's on BBG because it has to do with cameraphones, freedoms, and because it's interesting to me.
So depressing. The whole point of having a law against child pornography isn't to stop people looking at it, it's to stop people abusing children while making the pornography. If the children are making it of their own accord, who cares who gets hold of it?
The worst part about this is that there was nothing the guys could do about it. You can't block phone photo messages. You get them no matter what. According to this law, someone could setup a computer to message child porn to every phone in the US, and everyone with a phone in the US would be guilty of possession of child porn. They didn't think their clever plan all the way through.
Sometimes I wished we lived in a world where intelligent adults, capable of putting two and two together ran things.
You better get them to send copies to me to determine what the problem is....
But. Yes this is insane.
"It's very dangerous," said Seranko. "Once it's on a cell phone, that cell phone can be put on the Internet where everyone in the world can get access to that juvenile picture. You don't realize what you are doing until it's already done."
What exactly is the danger? Does Seranko sweat and dart his eyes around the room when he says this? And didn't he just admit there is no intent here?("You don't realize what you are doing"). Has anyone checked Seranko's phone and computer lately?
Well,never mind.The important thing is that six hithero blameless 14 to 17 year olds will now have records as sex offenders and the others will have the proper fear of the cops. After all, that's what this is all about.
P1rat3 @ 6... right you are. Smart thinking...
"It's very dangerous,"
As opposed to sending them to juvie--assuming that they're not tried as adults, and as long as you're going to extremes, why not go bugfuck crazy with it?
I blame the parents.
(Too late?)
WTF?! Seriously... WTF.
You know, this CAN'T be the first time minors have been caught sening pornographic images of themselves. What happened before?
It would be nice--and may even HAPPEN--for all this WTF-ness to dissipate once we get a former Constitutional Law professor into the highest office in the country.
YEAHHHH, BRAINS!!
"Sometimes I wish we lived in the olden days when people did not develop sexually until they were in their mid-30s."
In that universe, it is a crime to make porn of yourself until you turn 40. Sigh.
Does the school have a policy of searching cells which they seize? The article only mentions that a student was seen using it, and I assume either texting or talking, not looking at photos of his naked girlfriend (he could have been, but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt). I don't live in PA, nor the US, but wouldn't searching of private property - even if seized for rule violation - be an illegal act in and of itself?
But this whole thing is screwed up. The couples can legally have sex with each other, but god forbid that the girls willingly take naked photos of themselves and send them to their boyfriends. Wonder how many of the adults involved did the exact same thing when they were teens?
Really, a suspension and notification to the parents would have sufficed. And that wouldn't have run the risk of having the teens listed as sex offenders for life, without any discrimination between them and serial rapists and child molesters.
I don't think teens should be legally allowed to be naked at any time. In fact, lets just throw all children in jail so we can't have sex with them.
This article is so evident of the problem with the age of consent. We find ourselves convicting people of exploiting themselves.
@#10 I toatally agree the point in the laws are to stop child abuse. The restirctions around photography these days are ridiculous. Many schools don't allow filming of children in school plays etc. It's time the law systems really look at why these laws were put into place in the first place.
This absurdity has to stop. Are we do turn them into sex offenders so that they cannot legally go within 100 yards of their classmates? Well the victim is also the perp, so perhaps they should have their heads separated at least 100 yards from their own bodies.
Definitions of modern sexuality are changing fast. Technology is an enabler. We MUST apply the laws in a common sense way. This whole situation disgusts me.
Calling teenager's self portraits child porn?
That's nothing. I have a far better scoop:
All teens are pedophiles. Their every waking moment is spent lusting after fellow underage people. Many of these sick bastards actually act out their pedophile fantasies and f*** each other.
I demand that all teens are immediately chemically castrated and confined in mental institutions until such time their interest is directed only to people aged over the legal limit.