The House may have finally gotten the vote through to delay the digital transition from February 17th to June 12th to give more time for money to be scraped together for more converter box coupons… but television stations were never obliged to fund four more months of analog signals. And wouldn’t you know: 40% of them won’t, shutting those signals down next Tuesday.
I’ve been flip in the past about my feelings about exactly why the digital transition delay is a bad idea, but it really does come down to this: 40% of analog signals shutting down on February 17th is a hell of a lot more confusing to people than 100% shutting down. Expect a lot or befuddled grannies shrieking in the aisles of Best Buy over the coming weeks.
Many local TV stations to go ahead with DTV switch [Reuters]



I have pix but no editing software in the shop. Updates later when the pix hit Flickr. I doesn’t look like much, unfortunately. Wires and circuit boards. I’m doing a full writeup for the DIY forum on AUDIOKARMA.ORG. If it’s any good Gareth might give it a mention in a Make blog.
I haven’t tested the range of the remote yet. It’s supposed to be good for 300 meters.
Plus, those stations will save a lot of money. Digital transmitters don’t require nearly as much power as analog transmitters, so utility bills should drop significantly.
If we weren’t overpaying for the converter boxes then the money from the auction of the BW could have gone to something else useful. It’s costing us collectively far too much. The public owns the airwaves and for some reason we’re subsidizing the companies that want to sell us products that receive broadcasts.
Actually, all of the money fom the coupons comes from the proceeds of the airwave auctions, so it’s not taxpayer money. It’s (mostly) Verizon/AT&T money.
The airwaves are public property, the use of which is leased to private interests. (That’s why the FCC will shut you down if you decide to put up a big TV transmitter on your own.) So any money that comes from those lease agreements may be considered “public money” even if it wasn’t collected through taxes.
Except that this social convention is counterfactual:
– David Weinberger interviewing David P. Reed in The myth of interference
c.f. open spectrum, cognitive radio, and software defined radio
(Read The myth of interference at Salon.com)
@TJ S: Isn’t part of the reason for this delay that the coupon program ran out of money? How are they going to make up for it? Tax money. And if it’s not tax money, well, in one pocket, out the other; the money AT&T/Verizon paid could effectively be allocated for a couple of aircraft carriers, money that just randomly disappeared in iraq, senatorial pay, EPA funding, or anything else that tax money paid for. If I have 10 bucks and you give me 10 more and I buy a $5 coffee, I paid it with money I have — money I had or money you gave me isn’t a part of the equation.
And the converters are still $20 overpriced and the stores consider them gold;
Here’s a perfect example: I went over to the clearance sale at Circuit City.. 100% of original price of $47.99.. enough to obliterate the coupon and then some..
Sign up with the dtv coupon exchange program if you need a coupon or have an extra..
For the record, from a guy standing in an electronics shop at this moment, with degrees in Electronics Technology and Data Processing, Information Theory is not some scheme ginned up to keep information from becoming free. It is Science. Bandwidth is a real and limited resource, no matter what some might wish to believe.
Various people have sited David Reed’s articles. While I might have respect for his CS credentials, I haven’t seen anything leading me to believe his radio electronics engineering credentials.
David Reed posits a smart receiver, and a smart transmitter. But he doesn’t lay out specifics of how these get by occupying the same frequency space. He veers off into frequency hopping (and how much of a magic bullet that is).
Receivers have limits on the frequencies they can receive, under what conditions, and over what distances. Same way the mark I eyeball does. That being the case, you CAN saturate the frequency range. Error correction assumes that a connection can be established in the first place; and error correction naturally reduces the reliable bandwidth available. For most applications, there is a lower threshhold for usefulness.
His article also seems to assume networking (IE intermittent, and two-way) traffic, which is not the case for broadcast – commercial radio, television.
And I have to wonder just how much of his frequency hopping magic is already in use. The obvious example being cell phone spectrums and handshaking.
Indeed, but look closer into the issue here. David Reed is basically rehashing his end-to-end principle, which is the fundamental principle that makes a heterogeneous network like the Internet possible at all, and applying it to how the radio spectrum is used across the domains of space and time. The FCC acts like a “smart network” trying to apportion in advance monopolies on efficient use of the spectrum, while cognitive radio and software-defined radio allow for a “dumb network” where effective use of the whole spectrum for transmitting data is determined dynamically by end-users through real-time scanning of what’s already in use within range at that moment. c.f. ultra-wideband (UWB)
“In a world of dumb terminals and telephones, networks had to be smart. But in a world of smart terminals, networks have to be dumb.” — George Gilder, in The Coming of the Fibersphere, Forbes ASAP, December 7, 1992).
The man in the quoted article above may have an interesting idea on the philosophy of the spectrum, but obviously little technical know-how.
“It’s not even a set of pipes with their capacity limited by how wide they are or an aerial highway with white lines to maintain order.”
It is exactly a set of pipes with their capacity limited by how wide they are. The white lines are the practical applications for a given band of frequencies. Information takes up space. Even in a closed system with now potential for interference, like fiber optic cable, you are limited by the frequency of light you have available. With radio transmission you don’t even get anywhere near those frequencies, so you can carry even less data even if you had the entire spectrum to yourself and some way of building antennas that could send and receive it all and receivers that could operate in more than a narrow bit of the spectrum.
OT subject of radio controlled turntable will be pursued on Untitled 1.
There are better reasons to be wary of the transition than a bunch of confused grannies at Best Buy. For one thing, almost all of the battery-powered portable TVs out there (you know, the kind people rely on during emergencies) are analog-only and can’t be connected to converter boxes.
I think we got hosed on the digital tuners deal. I know a lot of people with serious chops in electronics manufacturing. The consensus seems to be that if you had to make 70,000,000 of something as simple as a digital tuner you should be able to sell them for $10.00 and make a profit. They’re selling The cheapest ones for $50 for which you get a $40.00 coupon so what’s the big deal? It’s costing you $10.00. The big deal is that the $40 coupon is your money. Tax payers are funding the coupons and the coupon distribution program.
I think what’s happening is a backhanded deal in which the taxpayers pay off the electronics manufacturers to the tune of 2.8 billion dollars to give up analog and design new tuners. That’s the only conceivable reason to pay $50 for a circuit board and a few connectors: it’s mostly bribe.
Thx for the additional info. That looks interesting. More comment later in the eve after I’ve digested it.
Solder must flow…
Zuzu, but don’t radio waves interfere with each other? Even with a “smart” receiver like a wireless card you can still get interference from analog or digital sources that are using the same frequency.. The solution is to “channelize” which is actually just slightly different frequencies within the range allotted to wireless networks.
Is there some way you can have ten different 100,000 watt transmitters all on the exact same frequency and somehow receive only one of them, perfectly clearly, just through clever receiver design? I don’t know of any way, and if it hasn’t been made then it’s not possible yet.
I think the quotes you’ve posted lean toward philosophy and away from technological solutions. But I could be wrong.
Well, we all know from past posts that there is a “Who Cares” attitude about us analog users. I don’t have cable tv. I don’t have the option for FIOS in my town and I don’t have Direct TV. I’m a rabbit ear girl. I don’t see the point in paying for something that ultimately is free. But now we are on the verge of the transition. So I go and get my converter boxes for my 2 tv’s. I hook them up with my $45.00+ antennas and guess what? THEY DON’T PICK UP ANY CHANNELS! Nothing, oh, wait, I got NBC for like a second. So I exchange the antennas and try a different kind. Guess what? Still nothing. I’m tired of people bitching about how it’s only grandma who isn’t going to be able to watch Antiques Roadshow and how she’s going to be horrifically confused by it all. Who cares if the date has been pushed back? Well I do! I did everything right, I hooked up the boxes properly (which I did NOT use goverment funded coupons for), I bought better antennas, I tried moving the tv’s and antennas to different areas to get a signal. I am not an idiot and tend to be better than most at figuring shit out and I still can’t get squat. So I’m just putting it out there that there are some normal, smart, can figure how to hook up a box, people out there that will be shafted by this whole conversion. I rent. I don’t have the option of hooking up a 50ft antenna tower in the yard. I am happy that it has been pushed back. I know that eventually my two tv’s will become DVD and video game monitors and I will have to catch my favorite shows online seeing as I live in some crazy digital dead zone.
I’m just tired of this being a topic. I’m annoyed that I will have to pay to continue to use my tv’s that I paid a lot of money for years ago. I’m annoyed that some channels are already at such a low analog signal that I can no longer pick them up. I’m annoyed that I ran out a month and a half ago so that I was prepared for something that doesn’t work and because of Best Buy being total douche bags I’m stuck with the crappy boxes I bought because they’re over the 1 month return date. And I’m tired of people bitching about the date change. There are some of us that welcome it.
@17 KC0BBQ
You’re aware of cognitive radio, right?
Previously:
* David Reed to FCC on open spectrum (July 11, 2002)
Grammar/spelling police here. Anyways is not a word, in all cases it is anyway.
WaterLillyGirl:
I agree 100%!
I am pissed off that I can’t play the new Coldplay record on my 78 Victrola! I payed a lot of money for that machine back in the day, and just because I am 120 years old doesn’t mean I don’t like contemporary music. Every time I purchase some collectors vinyl edition from a pop-band, and try to play it on my 78, it sounds all squeaky like the chipmunks or something. Society has an obligation to make sure I can use my outdated technology forever!
I am sick of the cold, heartless, uncaring bastards who would dare suggest that we can’t divert a few billion dollars from healthcare or education or some crap to press a few acetate disks for people like myself who simply can’t afford to buy a new record player.
And don’t even get me started on Best Buy being total douche bags and not letting me exchange my 3DO for a PS3, just because its past the 1 month return date!
RossInDetroit:
Actually, all of the money fom the coupons comes from the proceeds of the airwave auctions, so it’s not taxpayer money. It’s (mostly) Verizon/AT&T money.
I do agree that the conterter boxes are overpriced, though.
WOO HOO!
The first test run of PhonoBOt 4004 the radio controlled turntable has just been completed.
Can I have my Mad Scientist merit badge now?
@Ross (14):
Wait, what? Or, to use a meme: Pics or it didn’t happen.