Flip ultra HD unboxed

@me, damn it, I just bought a Mivo HD a month ago!

@1, no, but at Costco last week, next to the Flip HD display, I saw a ~$100 helmet-mounted camcorder that records to a 2GB chip... but then thought I'd rig the mivo to my headlamp, or invest in a little duct tape....

@4, thanks for the tip (truly)... but to clarify, they won't _own_ it per se, only have right to adapt and use it, and apparently only when you upload content to their site (like so many other video-sharing sites).

http://www.theflip.com/terms.shtml

"...The Site may allow you to upload designs or other images (“Designs”) for the purposes of sharing such Designs with Pure Digital, its partners and users of the Site. You represent and warrant that all Designs uploaded (or otherwise posted) by you to (or otherwise through) the Site shall be your original work and will not infringe or otherwise violate the rights of any third party. By submitting a Design as set forth above, you hereby do and shall grant to Pure Digital (and its successors, assigns, third party services providers (e.g. contract manufacturers), distributors, VARs, OEMs, resellers and other channel partners) a worldwide, non-exclusive, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, fully paid, sublicensable and transferable license to use, reproduce, modify, distribute, publicly display and otherwise exploit the Designs on and in connection with the manufacture, sale, promotion, marketing and distribution of products sold on, or in association with, the Site or with any of the distributors of products sold in association with the Site, and in any medium existing or not yet existing. You also hereby do and shall grant each user of the Site a non-exclusive license to access your Designs through the Sites, and to use, modify, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display and perform such Designs as permitted through the functionality of the Site and the products sold therein (and through its other distributors)....

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#6 posted by SamSam, April 27, 2009 12:26 PM

#4: Where do you read that?

If it's the reading that #5 has, that's not correct, nor is #5's interpretation. That piece of the TOS is referring to the designs that buyers can use to customize their Flips with -- a really cool feature, brought to you by (I think) cafe press. I got my gf a Flip that was customized with a Ernst Haeckel reproduction.

That excerpt is saying that if you upload an image to customize your Flip with, they can take it and use it.

I don't know where you're reading that they own your videos.

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#7 posted by takeshi, April 27, 2009 1:41 PM

Yeah, where does it say that they own your videos? Please. And why in the Hell would that be scary? It's not like any serious filmmaker is going to be using these for anything other than home movies. Unless sex is involved, what are those worth?

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#8 posted by Takuan, April 27, 2009 2:45 PM

news clips? worth a fortune

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#9 posted by Anonymous, April 27, 2009 5:52 PM

i own the mino HD, not the one mentioned here. i said they owned the rights, not the videos, but same diff AFAIK.

and i should have said pure digital rather than flip.

from flipshare agreement 4.0.6:

"You hereby grant to Pure Digital a non-exclusive, worldwide,
perpetual, irrevocable, transferable, royalty-free license to use, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display, and perform all of your Content, with the right of Pure Digital to grant sublicPure Digital’s websites and Pure Digital’s (and its successor's and assigns’) business. "

here's another nice bit: "Pure Digital reserves the right, at its discretion, to modify this Agreement at any time by posting a notice on its Web site, www.theflip.com (the "Site"), or by sending You a notice via email or postal mail. You shall be responsible for reviewing and becoming familiar with any such modifications."

sounds like a credit card company.

i tried to get the videos off the camera onto my mac without flipshare, i.e. iphoto but there is some kind of frame rate incompatibility that keeps them from playing smoothly. besides, the video quality is teh suck if the video involves motion of any sort, i.e. moving the camera or filming a moving object - complete chop. plus the lights on the Mino's buttons are so bright it's hard to look at the display. (it looks like they might have improved this?)

#7. serious? filmmaker? Hell? sex?

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